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	<title>Comments on: Cricket Fascists</title>
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		<title>By: Junita</title>
		<link>http://yobbo.wordpress.com/2007/02/07/cricket-fascists/#comment-15076</link>
		<dc:creator>Junita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Apr 2007 23:00:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When the stadium is half full, then only the organisers will think of so called &quot;strategies&quot; to attract more fans!!! talk about lesson learnt..... they never learn!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When the stadium is half full, then only the organisers will think of so called &#8220;strategies&#8221; to attract more fans!!! talk about lesson learnt&#8230;.. they never learn!</p>
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		<title>By: Strider</title>
		<link>http://yobbo.wordpress.com/2007/02/07/cricket-fascists/#comment-14922</link>
		<dc:creator>Strider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2007 03:01:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yobbo, you have a lot of important points here.  The many things which are being banned from sport, such as Mexican waves and running onto the ground after the match, are what make live sports fun.

That, and screaming abuse at the opposition team, fans, and umpire.

The fun-police seem hell bent on banning this sort of activity - it is as daft as Lara Bingle suing Zoo Weekly for defamation for running bikini photos of her - is that a blonde lawyer joke or what?

I despair of what this country is coming to sometimes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yobbo, you have a lot of important points here.  The many things which are being banned from sport, such as Mexican waves and running onto the ground after the match, are what make live sports fun.</p>
<p>That, and screaming abuse at the opposition team, fans, and umpire.</p>
<p>The fun-police seem hell bent on banning this sort of activity &#8211; it is as daft as Lara Bingle suing Zoo Weekly for defamation for running bikini photos of her &#8211; is that a blonde lawyer joke or what?</p>
<p>I despair of what this country is coming to sometimes.</p>
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		<title>By: Boris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Boris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2007 14:32:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;&gt;Why? Because when you give someone a little bit of power, they always lust for more.&quot;

Yobbo, I always ask the question: you want a libertarian GOVERMENT. Isn&#039;t it a contradiction in terms?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&gt;Why? Because when you give someone a little bit of power, they always lust for more.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yobbo, I always ask the question: you want a libertarian GOVERMENT. Isn&#8217;t it a contradiction in terms?</p>
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		<title>By: g-lock</title>
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		<dc:creator>g-lock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Feb 2007 05:49:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The other part I don&#039;t understand is that there are already designated family/dry areas.  I can understand policing these areas heavily, but most grounds (the MCG in particular) are so huge that separating families from people such as myself would be very simple to do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The other part I don&#8217;t understand is that there are already designated family/dry areas.  I can understand policing these areas heavily, but most grounds (the MCG in particular) are so huge that separating families from people such as myself would be very simple to do.</p>
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		<title>By: SimonC</title>
		<link>http://yobbo.wordpress.com/2007/02/07/cricket-fascists/#comment-14162</link>
		<dc:creator>SimonC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2007 09:55:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, makes sense. Goes with what people have said above about making the place a more &#039;family friendly&#039; affair. 

And when it comes down to it, if the organisers think they can make more cash out of the family market than they can out of the yobs market, then more luck to them. But I know that as well as my ticket money, I can easily drop $100 on full-strength beers and crap pies. And so do the 5 guys I go with.

Now, I keep my ticket money, and spend $30 on a case to watch the game at home. If I feel like a crowd atmosphere, I can wander over to the pub across the road and watch it on the big screen, and still not pay a lot more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, makes sense. Goes with what people have said above about making the place a more &#8216;family friendly&#8217; affair. </p>
<p>And when it comes down to it, if the organisers think they can make more cash out of the family market than they can out of the yobs market, then more luck to them. But I know that as well as my ticket money, I can easily drop $100 on full-strength beers and crap pies. And so do the 5 guys I go with.</p>
<p>Now, I keep my ticket money, and spend $30 on a case to watch the game at home. If I feel like a crowd atmosphere, I can wander over to the pub across the road and watch it on the big screen, and still not pay a lot more.</p>
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		<title>By: Daavid Crawford</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daavid Crawford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2007 05:03:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So far there have been 30 comments posted on this topic and not one of you has a real clue as to how this shit happens.  I work for a private company that provides security at our city-owned sports venue.  Said venue is used mainly for high-school sports, monster truck shows, and, the main money maker, country-western concerts.  (All the rock concerts end up in Seattle at KeyArena, for insurance purposes.)

At C-W concerts there are 2 kinds of fans:  

(1) Those that want to sit in their seats and watch the concert.  They&#039;re usually older, middle-class, and very articulate about what they want.

(2) Those yonger fans that go to have an ass-kicking good time.

And of course, what (1) considers an enjoyable evening is usually at odds with what (2) does.

So what happens?  Group (1), the articulate ones, conmplain to the city-employed managers of the venue.  Those managers read the riot act to the private company supervisor.  And geuss what?  More security, less fun.

I&#039;m willing to bet that every rule that chafes your butt can be traced directly back to some paying customer bitching to the venue operators, or team officials, or such.  One articulate complainer can have rules put in place that bug the shit out of 99 non-articulate non-complainers everyday.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So far there have been 30 comments posted on this topic and not one of you has a real clue as to how this shit happens.  I work for a private company that provides security at our city-owned sports venue.  Said venue is used mainly for high-school sports, monster truck shows, and, the main money maker, country-western concerts.  (All the rock concerts end up in Seattle at KeyArena, for insurance purposes.)</p>
<p>At C-W concerts there are 2 kinds of fans:  </p>
<p>(1) Those that want to sit in their seats and watch the concert.  They&#8217;re usually older, middle-class, and very articulate about what they want.</p>
<p>(2) Those yonger fans that go to have an ass-kicking good time.</p>
<p>And of course, what (1) considers an enjoyable evening is usually at odds with what (2) does.</p>
<p>So what happens?  Group (1), the articulate ones, conmplain to the city-employed managers of the venue.  Those managers read the riot act to the private company supervisor.  And geuss what?  More security, less fun.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m willing to bet that every rule that chafes your butt can be traced directly back to some paying customer bitching to the venue operators, or team officials, or such.  One articulate complainer can have rules put in place that bug the shit out of 99 non-articulate non-complainers everyday.</p>
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		<title>By: Saltation- Intermittent Creative Twitchings</title>
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		<dc:creator>Saltation- Intermittent Creative Twitchings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Feb 2007 19:50:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Power corrupts. Parasitism corrupts absolutely. &lt;/strong&gt;

they feel the urge to continuously add to the limits and requirements for other people in order to achieve some additional effect, rather than have the maturity and ability to be able to sit back and look at the total effect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Power corrupts. Parasitism corrupts absolutely. </strong></p>
<p>they feel the urge to continuously add to the limits and requirements for other people in order to achieve some additional effect, rather than have the maturity and ability to be able to sit back and look at the total effect.</p>
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		<title>By: dez</title>
		<link>http://yobbo.wordpress.com/2007/02/07/cricket-fascists/#comment-14153</link>
		<dc:creator>dez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Feb 2007 11:53:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone at the second one-day final at the SCG would agree with me ... Geez, it&#039;s so hard to say this - almost like denouncing Santa - the game was actually boring.

Light beer, a general ban on fun, and the prohibition of the revered &#039;beer snake&#039;. We were left to rely on over-inflated condoms for excitement and intrigue - would the wind guide them onto the field where they&#039;d unceremoniously pop on contact with grassy blades?

In a spirit of open defiance, we launched a mexican wave that travelled 14 times around the ground (is that a record?). But I was still left underwhelmed and asked myself; what happened to our beloved game?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone at the second one-day final at the SCG would agree with me &#8230; Geez, it&#8217;s so hard to say this &#8211; almost like denouncing Santa &#8211; the game was actually boring.</p>
<p>Light beer, a general ban on fun, and the prohibition of the revered &#8216;beer snake&#8217;. We were left to rely on over-inflated condoms for excitement and intrigue &#8211; would the wind guide them onto the field where they&#8217;d unceremoniously pop on contact with grassy blades?</p>
<p>In a spirit of open defiance, we launched a mexican wave that travelled 14 times around the ground (is that a record?). But I was still left underwhelmed and asked myself; what happened to our beloved game?</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://yobbo.wordpress.com/2007/02/07/cricket-fascists/#comment-14149</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Feb 2007 06:12:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The organisers need to be mindful of how they treat the fans.  After 13 years as a Sydney Swans member, I&#039;m not renewing.  My problem is that last year they only had 6 Sunday arvo games at the SCG.  The Swans at the SCG on a sunny sunday afternoon is what it&#039;s all about (or used to be).

The other games are Sat night (I play golf on Sat, and by the time I get home, I don&#039;t feel like going out again) or Homebush where we have crap seats at what is probably the worst AFL venue in the country.

It&#039;s not to say that I won&#039;t go to the odd game, but I&#039;m happy to stump up the general admission fee, and most likely sit in the same seats, as they never seem to be reallocated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The organisers need to be mindful of how they treat the fans.  After 13 years as a Sydney Swans member, I&#8217;m not renewing.  My problem is that last year they only had 6 Sunday arvo games at the SCG.  The Swans at the SCG on a sunny sunday afternoon is what it&#8217;s all about (or used to be).</p>
<p>The other games are Sat night (I play golf on Sat, and by the time I get home, I don&#8217;t feel like going out again) or Homebush where we have crap seats at what is probably the worst AFL venue in the country.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not to say that I won&#8217;t go to the odd game, but I&#8217;m happy to stump up the general admission fee, and most likely sit in the same seats, as they never seem to be reallocated.</p>
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		<title>By: g-lock</title>
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		<dc:creator>g-lock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Feb 2007 01:45:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d dispute the crowd trends as well.  AFL has seen massive attendance increases in previous years, setting a new record in 2005 and just falling short in 2006, partly because the MCG was out of action for the first month.  The only real change in AFL culture has been the delay added between the game ending and the kids running on the ground, and the smoking ban, which was pushed by the MCG.
Cricket, in contrast, has had all kinds of draconian measures placed on the crowd, and crowd figures are starting to feel the pressure.  (Yes, there was a record attendance this year, but I could have hosted an Ashes Test in Kangaroo Flat and got 80000 people).  The first final in Melbourne had dismal attendance, especially compared to the A-League final which was on over the road.  I actually knocked back free tickets to the cricket, because turning up just isn&#039;t fun anymore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d dispute the crowd trends as well.  AFL has seen massive attendance increases in previous years, setting a new record in 2005 and just falling short in 2006, partly because the MCG was out of action for the first month.  The only real change in AFL culture has been the delay added between the game ending and the kids running on the ground, and the smoking ban, which was pushed by the MCG.<br />
Cricket, in contrast, has had all kinds of draconian measures placed on the crowd, and crowd figures are starting to feel the pressure.  (Yes, there was a record attendance this year, but I could have hosted an Ashes Test in Kangaroo Flat and got 80000 people).  The first final in Melbourne had dismal attendance, especially compared to the A-League final which was on over the road.  I actually knocked back free tickets to the cricket, because turning up just isn&#8217;t fun anymore.</p>
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